The Left is International and Russia Is Still Its HQ

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Important article by Daniel Greenfield:

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The Russians had created their own Black Lives Matter groups, activists and protests. It is still not fully clear where the dividing lines between black nationalists and Russian agents lie. And the media has consistently buried these revelations about the real Russian role in our politics to focus on the discredited smears targeting President Trump and his political allies.
And yet the true Russian agents were the black nationalists championed by the Left.
The recent indictment of Aleksandr Ianov, a Russian figure operating in coordination with Russia’s FSB security agency, accuses him of recruiting and providing financial support for black nationalist groups in the United States.
One of the black nationalist groups in the indictment is the Black Hammer Party whose leader Gazi Kodzo had described Anne Frank as a “colonizer” and “bleach demon” and who has since been arrested on charges of kidnapping, assault, and aggravated sodomy.

Mumbled Aside:
“Aggravated sodomy”! Good grief, what can that be? The imagination boggles.

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#2

Yes, that’s why the Democrat’s claim that Russians colluded with Trump is so ridiculous. It’s always been the Left that has colluded with them, and it was in this case, too.

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#3

This piece by Greenfield is true as far as it goes. The Russian state wants to stir up trouble in the US, and Black Nationalist groups are one way to do it.

Another way is to encourage our side to do stupid things – I believe the ‘Boogaloo Boys’ – who advocated killing policemen – were either a creation of, or taken advantage of by, Russians.

Their main aim is just to create chaos – rather like the European resistance movement during WWII.

The difference between the Russian state today, and the old Soviet Union, was that the Soviets had a different, more comprehensive, and more sophisticated strategy.

The Soviet strategy saw the Communist Parties abroad – the ones they controlled – as essentially border guards for the USSR. Their main task, in democracies, was to influence their own governments to do what the Soviets wanted.

This strategy really didn’t take off until 1935. Up until Hitler’s accession to power, the Comintern was on a Stalin-ordered ultra-left binge, which helped greatly in Hitler’s taking power, since it prevented the unity of the working class anti-Nazi parties in Germany. In fact, the Communists even had some limited co operation with the Nazis, as in the ‘Red Referendum’ to remove the Socialist Chief of Police in Berlin. But Hitler’s victory shocked Stalin into order a ‘right turn’ for the Communist Parties – which in fact greatly increased their influence, as they were now able to ‘work with’ (and lead) liberals.

In the US, the CP had, mechanically aping the Russian experience, the line of ‘self-determination for the Black Belt’ – the latter being a band of counties in the South where Blacks were a majority. This insane positon didn’t get a lot of support … but Communist support for Black rights did.

The old Communist strategy was to build a ‘Popular Front’, around general liberal/progressive demands, but always with the aim of promoting the image of the Soviet Union as a ‘peace-loving power’. Nothing like that is possible today – few people on the Left see Russia as some sort of progressive vanguard. In fact, a large part of the Left, probably most of them, have jumped on the neo-con bandwagon with respect to the war in Ukraine.

AFter 1935, the CP made some real headway within the Democratic Party, in states like Washington and New York, and in Minnesota’s Democratic-Famer-Labor Party. During WWII, they were super-patriots (after Hitler invaded the USSR – before that, they were resolutely against the US helping the European democracies). The Cold War pretty much wiped out all their gains in the Democratic Party and the unions. And Krushchev’s “Secret Speech”, in 1956,followed by the Hungarian Revolution, caused a deep split in the Party. When the New Left arose in the 1960s, they had little influence in it, being seen as a combination of Russian stooges and old fuddy-duddies.

Today, the Russians simply act in a basically a-political way, to incite conflict – calling a fake ‘Anti-Islam’ rally, for example, and trying to get both Islamists and their opponents to attend.[Russian trolls orchestrated 2016 clash at Houston Islamic center, new Senate intel report recalls]

The real threat they present to the patriots is this: they will hope to provoke our side into doing something stupid. If you’re on social media, and run into someone consistently urging the initiation of violence, there’s a good chance you’re dealing with a member of glavset, an oligarch-financed group [the Internet Research Agency] which, among other things, works through social media to advance Russian interests. [Internet Research Agency - Wikipedia]

In summary: all the technical expertise of the old KGB and other Russian agencies has passed on to their current descendants. But their aim is very different – at least at the moment. What they’re doing now is trying to crate chaos, rather than build a movement in the US that could influence the American attitude to their country.

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#4

Nowadays there seems to be an equally likely chance that it’s the FBI orchestrating these fronts as the Russians, or the Chinese. With “friends” like that, who needs enemies?
Example: Hillary collaborating with the FBI in the Russian Collusion hoax.

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#5

Yes, you’re right. I would dearly like to know what life is like inside the FBI now.

I’m on their mailing iist – everyone should be, you learn a lot [ ]
In fact, I would recommend everyone to go to the FBI website and spend some time looking around on it.

Start here: https://www.fbi.gov/news/testimony/oversight-of-the-federal-bureau-of-investigation-080422

Quite a lot of what they do is perfectly legitimate. What we have to watch out for are provocateurs – wherever they come from – who will try to entrap us into illegal activity. Which means we’ve got to know what’s legal and what isn’t.

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Note that one poor fellow from Texas, who went to Washington on 6 January with an AR15 in his car, and a concealed handgun, just received over 8 years in prison for taking part in the ‘Capitol Breach’ (as the FBI calls it, not ‘Insurrection’, please note.)
[ Texas Man Sentenced to 87 Months in Prison for Actions Related to Capitol Breach | OPA | Department of Justice ]

And yet on various patriotic forums, I still read boneheads posting things about how we have the ‘executre the traitors’. Or maybe not boneheads, maybe paid provocateurs, or Russian trolls.

We’ve got to fight smart.

One thing we need – and it probably already exists but I just have not found it – is A Patriot’s Guide to the Law.

It would answer questions like:

What sort of statements can get you indicted for seditious conspiracy charges? (I have seen the word ‘treason’ used a thousand times, as in ‘We should try Nancy Pelosi for treason’, by people who obviously have no idea what the legal definition of ‘treason’ is.)

When can you shoot someone in self-defense?
Query: Say you … not anyone here of course – go to someone’s apartment to sell them some marijuana. They pull a gun and try to rob you, but you also have a gun and defend yourself, shooting them dead. You’re tried on a homicide charge in a local court, and the jury buys your argument that you acted in self-defense and acquits you. Are you okay now? Answers to follow.)

When can you make a “citizen’s arrest”? Say you see someone casing a building site, with what you believe is the clear intent to come back and rob it. You ring the police, and you and a friend chase the putative criminal. You hold him at gunpoint with your shotgun. He tries to grab it away from you and you fire in self-defense, killing him. Are you okay with the law? Answers to follow, although anyone who has been following the news already knows the answer.

You buy a legal high-class handgun, but after using it on the range, realize that you need a shoulder-stock for it, which you can buy legally on the after-market. Are you okay with the law now?
(Answer to follow.)

What the Constitution says, what common sense says, what Natural Law (if you adhere to that concept) says … is almost irrelevant.

Even what the legal statutes of the United States and of your state say, is only partially relevant. You have to know case law, AND the current political climate … in particular, who’s in power.

Angry demonstrators invade your neighborhood, in the context of national riots where they’re burning down buildings. You come out on your lawn with your gun and stand there, to warn them not to come on to your property and try to burn down your home.
Are you in the clear, legally? (I don’t mean, are you morally justified? I mean, are you likely to be charged with a crime?) I’ll bet everyone reading this knows the answer to that one. If not, answer to follow.

You see two men breaking into your neighbor’s house. You ring the police, the dispatcher says they’re on the way, you say you’ll confront them with your shotgun, are warned by the dispatcher not to do that. You do it anyway. They rush at you, then turn and run … you kill them both. They turn out to be illegal immigrants with prior criminal records. Your actions are being watched by a policeman.

Are you going to be charged? If so, will the jury clear you?
Again, those who are obsessive readers of the news will know what might happen … depending on where you live.

If all we do is sit at home and complain about the Left on forums like this, there is probably no problem. (In the UK, posting somehting critical of Pride Month on social media can get you arrested, so maybe I shouldn’t be so sure.[Veteran Arrested in UK for How He Arranged 'Pride' Flags in Social Media Post ⋆ Flag And Cross]
But if you actually start DOING something to fight the Left … going to meetings, organizing with friends, going to demonstrations … especially being in a serious group … YOU – WE – MUST KNOW THE LAW, NOT JUST ABSTRACTLY BUT CONCRETELY.

If anyone here does have more than a layman’s knowledge of the law, or knows where such information can be obtained – websites, books – I would be very happy to talk to them. This information probably exists already. It just needs to be made known to every patriot.

Otherwise we could be sitting in Federal Prison for eight years.

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#7

This is advice about crime. The illegitimate Biden administration has imprisoned January 6 protestors ostensibly for crimes but actually as political prisoners. The political fight is not yet being fought with guns, though it may come to that.

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#8

Good questions. And yes, it’s a good idea to know the law - although the left changes it all the time.
I call our politicians traitors all the time, because thats exactly what they are!

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#9

Well, ‘traitor’ is a common metaphor, and its frequent use has robbed it of its strength. It makes me laugh to see the Left now using it, includng against the Confederacy, while at the same time the liberal/left New York City Council passes a resolution honoring Ethyl Rosenberg, the spy for the Soviets who helped Stalin get the atomic bomb.

(One of these articles says the Rosenbergs were executed for ‘treason’, but that’s not true. There were no ‘Treason’ trials during the Cold War. It’s worthwhile to read the Wiki article on the subject’s section of the definition of Treason in the US:
Treason - Wikipedia)

We both need to know the law, as it can be used against us, and to be able to use words logically and precisely.

It’s a war, and we must keep our weapons in top condition, including our intellectual ones.

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#10

The Rosenbergs were not CHARGED with treason, but treason is what they committed. They were charged with “conspiracy to commit espionage”. Regardless of the official US definition of “treason” (“Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort”) - they were guilty of it by the ordinary meaning of the word. The US was not technically at war with the USSR, but the USSR was the enemy, kept from violent aggression by the fact of America’s superior military strength, of which the possession of nuclear arms was the guarantee. The Rosenbergs deliberately set about undermining that superiority by giving US atomic secrets to Russia. As citizens of the US, they obviously committed treason.

And, please, she was ETHEL, not ethyl (C2H5).

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#11

Okay, Ethel. I was never very good at organic chemistry.

We are taking hits because our people don’t know the law. It’s one of the Left’s weapons against us.

As for 6 January, of course it was a crime. They broke the law. Those who encouraged them to do so were either idiots on our side, or smart people on the other side.

Now … is their prosecution fair? If it had been BLM, would the government be handing our prison sentences of eight years? Wouid one of the demonstrators, unarmed, have been shot to death, with the policeman doing it exonerated and congratulated?

Ha.

(By the way, there ARE rioters from the summer BLM/AntiFa riots who are going to prison, but they had to be caught doing something pretty egregious, like torching a police car.)

We’ve got to know the law. Something may be morally right do say or do, but tactically stupid to say or do.

Care in point: a school board makes mask wearing mandatory at school. You show up at the next board meeting to protest this. You get angry at their response, and shout, “Next time I come here I’ll bring my guns!”
What might happen?

Many patriots think they’re still living in Ronald Reagan’s America. They think they can say anything they like because … First Amendment. They think they can own any weapon they like, because … Second Amendment.

Friends, we’re at war. We’re not yet anywhere near like being in Soviet Russia or Cuba. But we’re not in Reagan’s America anymore either.

Here’s the way to think about it: In 1938 a young Jew in Paris, made stateless and impoverished by Nazi and Polish offiialdom, driven to extreme anger by the treatment of the Jews, assassinated a German diplomat. [His story here:Herschel Grynszpan - Wikipedia ]

In retaliation, " …Within hours, Nazis began a pogrom against Jewish communities throughout Germany which became known as Kristallnacht (Night of Broken Glass) and lasted all night and into the following day. More than 90 Jews were killed; over 30,000 Jews were arrested and sent to concentration camps (where over a thousand died before the remainder were released, several months later), and thousands of Jewish shops, homes, offices and more than 200 synagogues were smashed or burned…"

Was Grynzpan morally justified in doing what he did? Of course. Every Nazi should have been shot dead. But tactically … a bad idea. There were much better ways to fight the Nazis.

In discussion forums like these it makes little difference what we say. But patriots who actually want to do something, and who begin to organize community defense teams, neighborhood support groups – any group that prepares to be able to do more than serve soup to displaced people – MUST be acutely aware of the law and how it can be – will be – used against us if we are careless in what we say or do.

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What crime did the protestors - as protestors - commit on January 6?

You say “it was a crime”. What crime?

What law - as protestors, some entering “the people’s house” - did they break?

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#13

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“Even the most common charge against the convicted protesters – trespassing – was concocted, since the extensive video-tapes provided by the Capitol security cameras showed Capitol Police willfully escorting crowds of protesters into the building.”

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Can we agree that it was a bonehead, stupid idea, an enormous gift to the Left. The communists etc could not have had a better thing happen to them if they had sat down and planned it – which a lot of people seem to think that they did.

There is plenty of video of people fighting with the police.

Let’s not kid ourselves. Self-delusion is our worst enemy.

These people are misguided patriots. They are our own. I’ve sent Tweets out, and posted links, to the fund for defending them, and have contributed to it myself.

But if we keep doing things like this, we are doomed. We have to be intelligent, savvy, cold-blooded, calculating. We cannot afford self-indulgence, doing what makes us feel good, rather than what will hurt the enemy.

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Doug, it seems to me that you are still thinking like a community organizer. You may be right, the time might come, when the abominable Left will have to be fought in actual battle. And some of the people who contribute their ideas to this discussion Forum may be able and willing to join in that battle. But we, here and now, are not - or not yet - activists. What is more, we are not even representative of any sizable portion of rightwing opinion.

As for the patriots who were subtly organized into entering the Capitol on that fateful day, I would not hold them at fault even if they had gone in entirely of their own volition to chuck the pols out. I agree with Mark Steyn that the thing (grand though its architecture is) could be, as far as its mostly barren procedures are concerned, better done without. It is not sacred ground.

I don’t want to dampen your enthusiasm, and your opinion is very well worth having, but I doubt there are any here who will follow your instructions. If I am wrong, I hope they will say so in this thread - and I will not discourage them.

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#16

My instructions?

What I have been advocating so far is negative. Don’t do stupid things like the Capitol Breach. Don’t threaten to use violence against our enemies. Don’t do things that could get you dragged into court, or that scare off the broad middle, whom we have to reach.

We must not be self-indulgent. And we must become activists!

There are things we can do just sitting at our computers, from home, taking even just a few minutes a day.

And there are other things we had better start doing: we must all become ‘Preppers’ – by which I don’t mean indulging silly Mad Max fantasies, just making sure we can come through a seriouis and prolonged disruption of the social/economic/legal order.

These are for a different discussion, of course.

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#17

And I say, “Do what you will.”

“We” are not an army.

With the would-be free, the individual always comes first, the community - neighborhood, tribe, nation - after. As I said, those who would be free, and those who would protect their nation, may have to fight and so become an army. But not yet.

Speaking for myself only - I hate being organized. That includes being told what not to do as well as what to do. (Unless I am in an army or a hospital.)

Post script: “Obey the law” is one instruction on which we can agree. (But we don’t have to study laws in detail unless that’s our pleasure or urgent need.)

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Yes, I don’t think the Jan 6 crowd would have done anything that could have been remotely construed as a crime if they hadn’t been set up, duped, and entrapped by the FBI and those that were working with them, like Antifa.
It was FBI agents or their operatives who tore down the barriers (so that the crowd didn’t know they were trespassing), encouraged them to “go INTO the Capitol” (like Ray Epps), broke windows (like the guy Ashley Babbitt was trying to stop right before she got shot), and the police, who let people in the building, and at the same time provoked the crowd with pepper spray and then beat them (which led to Boylands death).
None of it was instigated by the Trump crowd.

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I’m waiting for the definitive book on 6 January, ideally written by a disillusioned Leftist like Glenn Greenwald.

On the law: the problem is that many patriots don’t know it. So they inadvertently say and write things that can get them in trouble at some point. And if they’re in a local group – a ‘militia’ or something similar – infiltrators can take advantage of such statements to draw them and others into something a hostile government can use against them.

We have go to know the law, and have go to be alert for provocateurs. There is a man – a 6 January protestor – going to prison now for nearly eight years – and there is no parole in the Federal system – because he didn’t do this. Two good organizations — the Oathkeepers and the Three Percenters – which brought together tens of thousands of patriots – are now in ruins, dissolved, because their leaders didn’t understand what we are up against. This is so elementary!

As for activism, of course, people will do what they want. If we all sit at home because we can’t organize ourselves, and ‘no-one is going to tell me what to do’, then eventually, someone will be telling you what to do, only it won’t be a fellow patriot elected to lead your group.

Our enemies play for keeps. We have to match them in seriousness and organizational effectiveness.

I recall that on the night the Bolsheviks stormed the Winter Palace and began their seizure of power in Russia, the Petrograd opera house was sold out. No one was going to tell those nice cultured people what to do!

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I totally agree that we should be better informed on the law and the enemy’s tactics.
That’s why they were able to rig the 2020 election right under our noses! Soros was pumping money into DAs, etc, for years, the left was screwing with election laws, and then Zuckerburg dropped billions into his bogus front group “Tech and Civic Life”.
Then of course they used Covid as an excuse to completely destroy every last shred of election integrity with ballot harvesting, etc, but by then it was too late.

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