Old Imperial Russia Confronts the Decaying West

There isn’t the slightest perception among our foreign policy elite that Putin isn’t simply trying to restore the old Soviet Empire: he’s trying to revive the 19th century idea of Russia as the “Third Rome” set against the West and Western liberal democratic principles (emphasis on the “liberal” part of that formula). This anti-Western strain has burrowed deep into Russian thought, and almost no one in Europe or America has taken it seriously.
The problem is much worse than simply thinking Putin’s supposed madness or megalomania is the source of the trouble. In other words, if some Russian officer put a bullet in Putin’s head today, the problem of an aggressive and anti-Western Russia would remain. This requires some much larger strategic thinking than merely whether NATO should be expanded.

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Very interesting. Dugin seems to be reacting, to some degree, against the decadence of the West, which is what some Westerners relate to, I guess.
The West has capitulated too easily to the influence of “Cultural Marxism”, and conservatives, who see it as a poison killing us, reject it, as he does.
Ironic that Russia was Marxist for so long, and they were the ones pushing that propaganda on the West. Now they reject not only Marxism, but also the West, which is only following in their footsteps.

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Perhaps: Or maybe it is a lot simpler than that. Perhaps Putin realizes that the ultimate aim of the US is to de-stabilize the Russian Federation to the point where it can be easily taken over and assett-stripped by American corporate interests. A very telling comment from one of Putin’s spokespeople, when pressed about the use of nuclear weapons, and the real possibility of destroying the world; “what use is the world if we are not in it”.
Putin seriously considered a role in NATO for Russia, that was never a serious offfer, made only to disarm and confuse. Similarly with the American puppet show known as the EU. It is glaringly obvious that a very mutually beneficial relationship could be built on EU-RF co-operation. Particularly if that relationship included China, but that won’t happen because of US dominance of the EU (Britain is not the only obsequious American toady in the world, just the most enthusiastic).
Putin, and the Russian people, desperately want to “join the world”, but only if they are recognized as a great nation in their own right.
This tragedy can be laid fair and square at the door of the US State Dept. and the CIA. It is not the first they have orchestrated, nor will it be the last, until somebody with courage, political knowledge and determination (Tulsi Gabbard?) gets their hands on the reigns.

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Welcome! Yes, that makes sense. The entire problem is a creation of the reckless policies of the U.S. State Department, CIA, and the rest of the government, which has become deeply corrupt.
If it weren’t for their corrupt involvement in Ukraine, and attempts to manipulate them politicically, I think this whole thing would have been avoided.

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Greetings, Father_Lode!

(Typo in you comment, in case you want to correct it - “reigns” should be “reins”. Don’t worry, we all make them.)

US dominance of the EU? Would you give us some instances where this is demonstrated?

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Welcome Father_Lode.

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This episode premiers in 2 hours: How the War in Ukraine FAST-TRACKS the Great Reset | Adam Curry | The Glenn Beck Podcast | Ep 136 - YouTube

I watched most of it yesterday on The Blaze. The two discussed current events involving Putin and Dugin, and others. The short of the main point is that Dugin (and his acolyte, Putin) seek to extinguish the Elites’ plan for a Global Fascist government and put into place separate National Fascists governments, and Dugin believes that only Armageddon will bring this to fruition. In the works right now is the elite goal of driving oil prices ever higher until the globe is destabilized. Yes, Putin is anti-globalist, but not on the side of the rest of the world that wants democratic forms of government and a sort of free market. Both Putin and Dugin believe in the collective not the individual. Dugin is a Big T traditionalist, not a little t traditionalist, which is a Western Civilization notion. A strong man for each nation, who runs a fascist government with collective rights goals, not individual rights goals, but each fascist nation to its self, according to its own desires.

Beck has been warning about Dugin for years, as some others have. This seems to be the time of his The Great Awakening vs. The Great Reset. In the podcast, they discuss the oil problem and what elites are doing to the globe through the war in Ukraine. A corollary to the oil-driven collapse of economies will be forcing digital currencies upon us, and then of course, we are trapped for good perhaps. Both Beck and Curry are respectively, an Optimistic Catastrophist and a Doomer Optimist. But the future is heading our way and Beck shouts out concerning Ukraine and oil, “It’s a trap!” Star Wars reference for those who don’t know.

Aleksandr Dugin’s book, The Great Awakening vs. The Great Reset from Goodreads:

The Great Awakening vs the Great Reset

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Alexander Dugin’s The Great Awakening vs the Great Reset is an open declaration of war against the twin diseases of liberalism and Western political modernity. Dugin calls upon the inhabitants of the Heartland to relentlessly attack, on all theoretical and practical fronts, the global elites of the coastlands, who try to impose their perverse, anti-human ideals by ruthlessly eradicating the long-standing cultures and traditions of all peoples in the world.

The demented usurper Joe Biden and his slavish Democrat acolytes are opposed by the Trumpists, who represent normal America and do not want to see their country submerged in a one-world, transhumanist dystopia. Just like the other rooted societies, they want to preserve their time-honoured way of life amidst the strangling tentacles of hysterical trans- and homosexuals, treacherous anti-White agitators and murderous Black Lives Matter grifters and terrorists.

Thus the stage is set for a showdown of truly apocalyptic proportions, pitting the forces of righteous anger, those who want to preserve traditions and the true richness of human diversity, against the Antichrist and his Soros-backed minions of insidious degeneracy and evil, who want to erase all bonds and communities - down to the human race itself.

Remember Aleksandr Dugin is not on our side, not on the side of the Western governments, not on the side of individual rights. But…apparently his political philosophy appeals to conservatives, who think that he is like us.

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Respectfully, I disagree (please don’t ban me again):
reigns: noun

the period during which a sovereign occupies the throne.

royal rule or authority; sovereignty.

dominating power or influence:the reign of law.

verb (used without object)

to possess or exercise sovereign power or authority.

to hold the position and name of sovereign without exercising the ruling power.

to have control, rule, or influence of any kind.

reins: noun

Often reins. a leather strap, fastened to each end of the bit of a bridle, by which the rider or driver controls a horse or other animal by pulling so as to exert pressure on the bit.

any of certain other straps or thongs forming part of a harness, as a checkrein.

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verb (used with object)

to check or guide (a horse or other animal) by exerting pressure on a bridle bit by means of the reins.

to curb; restrain; control.

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I meant if, or when, Tulsi Gabbard, or somebody like her, ascends to the Presidency, she will be able (I hope) to control foggy bottom and the CIA, and set US foreign policy on a new course, where honesty, respect for the law and “others” is paramount.
“US dominance of the EU”: When Uncle Sam barks, the EU jumps. Libya, Syria, Iraq, Ukraine. The US dictates the foreign policy of the EU, particularly Germany, the most important EU member:
German Foreign Policy Is a CIA Front - LewRockwell LewRockwell.com
There are many other aspects to this, not least the complete subservience of the British establishment to the US. While Britain is not now in the EU (the most stupid political decision since 12/12/1941, when Hitler declared war on the US) it was “The American Trojan Horse in Europe”, as De Gaulle said.
I am getting tired, besides which it is Miller time.
All the best.

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You know you can’t “get your hands on the reigns”. But as you like.

Nobody gets banned from this Forum (unless of course they do something criminal like incite murder). You have not been banned from it, nor will you be (unless you incite murder).

Until the Chancellor of Germany just a few days ago made a big turnabout in foreign policy, Germany was cozying up to Russia against US interests, and very much against President Trump’s advice.

What is “Miller time”?

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That’s really interesting.
Although Dugin and Putin are not our friends, we do have a common enemy - “the Soros backed minions of insidious degeneracy and evil”.
If Trump were President, although not a fascist, he would have kept Putin on our side, and kept the agendas of the WEF, and China, in check.
Ironically, although Biden’s regime is basically fascist, and his destruction of our energy independence is weakening the U.S. and enriching Russia, he’s still Putin’s enemy because he embraces the globalist agenda.

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Thank you for not beating me over the head (too much!)
You are probably right about “reigns” and “reins”, I admit to my pathetic illiteracy. I did fail my 11+, 63 years ago,. However I take comfort from my place in the “A” stream at secmod, at least I wasn’t as thick as those losers in the “B” stream (you see I have retained many English characteristics).
I am busy at the moment. I live about 15 miles from McDill AFB, HQ Centcom, which is bound to be high on the Kremlin’s target list, so I am frantically trying to get some 100,000 sun block, just in case.
You haven’t heard the expression “Miller time”?
“Time to sample a cold tube”, “open a coldie”, “slurp some freezing nectar”, or, for the old fashioned amongst us; “feel like a pint”? :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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Cheers, Father_Lode!

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Just finished watching the interview and it was really interesting and good.

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It’s five o’clock somewhere…

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Yes, but an enemy of my enemy is NOT my friend, either.

Trump has that twitchy eye, which would kept Putin from acting aggressively, and events may have changed had he stayed as our Commander in Chief, and the Left crawled away to die. But Putin and company would still be of the same mindset and just waiting. I don’t think he would be on our side, ever.

Biden’s agenda (Obama’s stand-in) is weakening the US. Putin is using an enemy to further his. Anything that serves the purpose of re-establishing the Russian Empire is worthy. Or the Chinese Empire. Or the Islamic Caliphate. Or whatever that maniac in North Korea wants…guess it is a reunited little island that is full of slaves and misery.

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Wish I had better service and more time to watch more of Beck’s podcast. Always very interesting, diverse guests and easy to watch. Talk radio allows me to work at the same time.

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Thanks Jeanne, that was an interesting chat with Adam Curry who I hadn’t heard of before.

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Here you are, Jeanne. Some more pleasure for you. (I find it intolerable, but to each his own.)

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Ms Becker,
A great essay by Michael Hudson (the Saker is a little peculiar, but Hudson is a gem).

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Well, that’s a fatherlode of pro-Russia and anti-America opinion!

I agree with Hudson it was a bad thing that the US came off the gold standard (if that is what he means to imply.) He is a Marxist economist and I am a free marketeer, so obviously I don’t agree with much else that he writes.

As to Saker himself: an Orthodox Christian who admires (or at least for a time admired) Hezbollah - a terrorist organization launched by Iran - and I are not likely to see eye-to-eye about much.

How do you, as an atheist and one who presumably values individual freedom, find the ideas of a Marxist and a Christian apologist for despotic Russia congenial?

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