That Stupid Old "Two State Solution" That Neither Israelis Nor Palestinians Want

There are a lot of Muslim voters in France. (Muslim population: over 5 million. Jewish population: about half a million.)

Marine Le Pen is courting the Muslim vote. Understandably. But the way she is doing it demonstrates inexcusable ignorance.

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I don’t get the impression that Muslims in France think a two state solution is the way forward either, surely they want the Ummah!

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I’m sure Le Pen would be a disappointment in many ways, she is left leaning as I understand it, but still better than Macron surely?

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I’m not sure now.

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No Muslims want a ā€œtwo state solutionā€. Nobody wants it except a few ignorant Western politicians who live far away from the Middle East, know nothing about it, and can’t be bothered to learn a little history.

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Btw what is your opinion on this man Hananya Naftali says about a 2 state solution? I’ve watched his YouTube videos, he’s an Israeli who talks about Middle East conflict.

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This is what the picture is referring to:

The whole of the territory that was known as the ā€œPalestineā€ region of the (Turkish) Ottoman Empire, actually the ancestral land of the Jewish people, was promised, after the end of WW1 and the defeat of the Turks along with the defeat of the Germans, to the Jews, to once again be their ā€œnational homeā€. It was put under the charge of Britain, the victor country that had decreed this settlement with the Balfour Declaration. However, a little later Britain handed some 80% of the territory to the Arabs to form a new state called Transjordan (later renamed Jordan). In 1948, after WW2, the Jews declared part of the 20% remnant to be their independent state called Israel. The United Nations, by a majority vote which included that of the United States, voted for the establishment of the State of Israel, but pieces of the 20%, known as the Gaza Strip and the ā€œWest Bankā€ (of the Jordan River) were offered to the Arabs for yet another Arab state (of which there were already over 20, several of them created out of the old Ottoman Empire). The Arabs refused the offer. Those two regions remained in dispute. (Gaza was granted independence, but not statehood, much later.) The Arabs claimed that all of the territory, including the whole of the State of Israel, should belong to them. They began calling themselves ā€œPalestiniansā€ as though they were a separate nation from the rest of the Arabs. Several times subsequently the offer of a state - to consist of Gaza, the ā€œWest Bankā€, and some pieces of Israel conceded by the Israelis - was made but always refused.

Obviously a ā€œtwo state solutionā€ had been forcibly imposed when the territory had been divided between Jews and Arabs with the early establishment of the state of Transjordan. What is now called Jordan IS the Arab state created out of the British mandate of ā€œPalestineā€ (though the Jewish section only became an actual state much later).

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I don’t know who would be worse now - Le Pen or Macron.

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An opinion column that makes sense:

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